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Brandenburg
Research List Archive 981
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Latest Update: 12 April 2001 .................................. FEEFHS WebSite Version


Suggestions for effective Brandenburg Germany Research List Messages:

SOURCES For Finding a Place of Origin in Germany

Current Map of Brandenburg - 1996

Historic Map of Brandenburg - 1882


BRGRL Posting status (this page only):
- entry for REARDON, Dan, 20 January 1998
- entry for ANDERT, Sandy, 11 February 1998
- entry for GIEWALD, Gary, 11 February 1998
- entry for WILHELM, Candace M., 18 February 1998
- entry for PUPPE, James L. 9 March 1998
- entry for RITTMAN, Anne, 15 March 1998
- entry for KLUKAS, Charles, 14 April 1998
- entry for MENARY, Kathy, 30 April 1998
- entry for KAY, Peter, 4 May 1998
- entry for HOBBS, Maxine, 15 May 1998
- entry for SCHROEDER, Jerry, 15 May 1998
- entry for GOHLKE, Ulrich (Uhi), Ph.D., 18 September 1998
- entry for SHAEDE, Eric A., 18 September 1998
- entry for VOJTA, Alvena, 18 September 1998
- entry for TIEDMANN, Robert G., 1 October 1998
- entry for EICHOLZ, Jacques, 21 October 1998
- entry for RUSSELL, Kathy, 21 October 1998
- comment by RAMBAUM, Siegfried, posted 26 January 2001
- new email address for BRANDBURGH, LouJane, 12 April 2001

See also BRGRL-971(Brandenburg Research List Archive 971) and
BRGRL (Brandenburg Research List) (latest listings)



ANDERT, Sandy
eMail address: tandert@worldnet.att.net


I am looking for information on the emigration from Germany to the U.S. on the Michael BECKER family. Michael, his wife Henriette, and probably their son, August arrived in the U.S. in 1857. Michael was born at Wilkersdorf, Brandenburg, Germany on 16 May 1824, to Gottfried and Sophie BECKER. The Michael BECKER family settled at Watertown, Wisconsin, after their arrival in the U.S. There are records of the family at St. Mark's Lutheran Church in Watertown. I would like to know their port of departure from Germany, port of entry in the U.S., and the name of ship and date of arrival in U.S. Where should I start my search? Thank you.
Webmaster' Note: Wilkersdorf was in kreis Königsberg and is now Krzesnica, powiat Chokna, Poland; but no FHL microfilm appears to exist for it under either location name. Becker is a very common surname, translating to baker here. However since you do have a specific location in the former German Empire, after you search the IGI, the Ancestral File and the FHL surname location section (there are listed) for any Becker surnames from there, you might try your surnames in Die Ahnenstammkartei des Deutschen Volkes on FHL microfilm - a three step process.
Comment by Siegfried RAMBAUM of Ithaca, New York, USA (eMail address: siram@lightlink.com)

You should not be too surprised that no microfilmings exist for that location. Wilkersdorf had no churches. The Lutherans belonged to the parish of a neighboring village named Zornddorf. If you have access to Archiv fuer Sippenforschung, volume 10, issue 4, April 1933, you would find a cross reference list of the Lutheran church books in the Brandenburg province. Cornell University Library, Ithaca, New York also has the bound volume of 1933, and it is available by Inter-Library Loan. The parish affiliation of Wilkersdorf is in the April issue 1933, pages 97 through 141. Though much of the stuff listed in that index has been lost in 1945, it nevertheless is a useful reference, as it tells you what you would have to look for when searching for church books.

Many churches in some villages were also serving neighbouring smaller villages. The index also is interesting in one respect, as it tells you about church books that were already lost in 1933, and how they were lost. And if something was lost in 1933 already, then you can give up all hope for it showing up unexpectedly after 1945. Other than that, Wilkersdorf in Kreis Koenigsberg i.N. (this "i.N." is important, as there is another Koenigsberg in Prussia -- in East Prussia, though -- which is also a county seat) is located in a region that to Germans is much better known under the name of "Neumark"...

Is there a genealogical mailing list dedicated to this region? Unfortunately, the mailing list is in German language only. But then, names and places do not hinge on languages to have them ring a bell with you. The mailing list archives can be found at http://www.ecircle.de/circles/Neumark-L Howver, to have access to those, you need to be subscribed to the mailing-list and use your email-address as a user id and a password that will be sent to you, when subscribing. To subscribe, send a blank email to Neumark-L-subscribe@ecircle.de

The Neumark-Listers are very active in extracting all genealogically relevant information from whatever sources they can lay their hands on. So you possibly might want to check out the many regional (i.e. for counties, professions, towns) indexes that have resulted from that mailing list so far. They can be found at http://home.t-online.de/home/Neumark-L Good luck on your research.


EICHOLZ, Jacques
email address: eichj@club-internet.fr

(Evangelisch?)
Ich lese auch Deutsch und Franzsich (I also speak German and French)
(My HomePage in English and German)

I am researching the ancestry and heritage of the EICHHOLZ family of Kreis Friedberg. My family lived in Franzthal (parish of Netzbruch - Neumark - Brandenburg - Prussia) in approximately the year 1830 undoubtedly just after the departure of the Mennonite colonies to Poland and Russia. My greatfather Heinrich August EICHHOLZ moved to Lyons (France). One of his brothers left for the U.S.A. while his other brothers and sisters stayed in Prussia. Their father was called Hans (Johann) Gotlob EICHHOLZ.

Henri Auguste EICHHOLZ was born 24 Febrary 1834 at Franzthal, Kreis Friedeberg (Neumark-Preussen), son of Hans Gottlob EICHHOLZ and Christine Frederika ZIPPEL (dates and origin of the father and mother are unknown). He died 1908 at Lyon (France). He married a) 17 July 1869 at Lyon, Josephine FECHTIG, born (?) at Bischweier (Baden-Germany), the daughter of Fridolin F. FECHTIG and Marie Eva SCHERER. She died 6 July 1871 at Lyon; there were no children from this marriage. b) 21 October 1871 at Lyon, BEURER Marie Anne Josephine BEURER, born 23 February 1842 at Oberlingen (Baden-Germany), died 1921 at Lyon (France). Their children were i: Henri Louis EICHOLZ, born 03 April 1873 at Lyon - died 20 July 1954 at Lyon (France). ii - Louise Josephine EICHOLZ born 09 July 1875 at Lyon, died 1875 at Seyssel (France). Religion: probably evangelist. Place: Franzthal (Kreis Friedeberg - Neumark-Preussen) in 1834. Emigration to the USA (one his brothers), place and date unknown, estimated circa 1860-1870. Profession : military & civil tailor. Some dates: volunteered in the French Foreign Legion 2 December 1882 (Paris), served in Africa (Sidi-Bel-Abbes ?) 18 December 1862-31 December 1863 and in Mexico 1864-1867 (English-French Expedition): 29 March 1864 at Vera Cruz, 13 April 1864 at Puebla. Returned to Africa (probably Mascara) 17 April 1867. Finished the service 1 December 1867. Went to Calais (France) or Lyon (France). Tailor at Lyon 1869 and later. Lived at Lyon 1869-1908.

Research into the ancestry and hereditary of the EICHHOLZ family: My family lived at Frantzthal (parish of Netzbruch - Neumark - Brandenburg - Prussia) in approximately the year 1830 undoubtedly just after the departure of the Mennonite colonies to Poland and Russia. My grandfather Heinrich Adolph EICHHOLZ moved to Lyons (France). One of this brothers emigrated to the USA while his other brothers and sisters stayed in Prussia. Their father was called Hans (Johann) Gotlob. I'm looking for information about this family in the USA and Germany; also want to trace their origins prior to their settling in Frantzthal. The origins of the village and non-Mennonite settlers also interest me. ICH LESE AUCH DEUTSCH



GIEWALD, Gary
eMail address: giewald@northnet.net


I am searching for family members of Albert and Klara GIEWALD who I believe died in Falkensee, Brandenburg in the 1930s. I think Albert was born at Hamburg and Klara at Magdeburg in the mid 1800s. They had eight children as follows: A) These children emigrated to Wisconsin in October 1923: 1) Grete, born at Schoenebeck 23 April 1896, died Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin 31 March 1953. Her son, Walter ERICH was born at Falkenhagen, Brandenburg 25 February 1913, 2) Erich - born Schoenebeck, died ?; 3) Lisbeth, born Falkenhagen, Brandenburg 1904, died Sheyboygan, Wisconsin 1934. B) These children remained in Germany: 4) Helen, 5) Robert (died at Stalingrad?), 6) Clara, 7) Ernst and 8) Lotte. Falkenhagen and Seegefeld merged to form Falkensee, Brandenburg.
Webmaster's Note: Falkenhagen and Seegefeld Evangelisch church records (1659-1804, 1806-1874) exist on 5 reels of FHL microfilm. There is a Schoenebeck in Saxony near Magdeburg and another in Pommern - Pomerania.


GOHLKE, Ulrich (Uhi), Ph.D.
European Molecular Biology Laboratory (EMBL) email address: Ulrich.Gohlke@EMBL-Heidelberg.de
Postbox 10.2209, Meyerhofstrasse 1, Heidelberg, 69012 Germany
email address: u_gohlke@hotmail.com

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I have just started researching the GOHLKE branch of my family tree. Before the family moved to Berlin in the early 1900's they lived in an Brandenberg area called the "Netzebruch" which now lies in Poland (Gorzow Wielkopolski province I believe). The villages they lived in were called (German names; polish names unknown): Hammelstall, Antoinettenlust, Vollrath and Alt Gurkowsch Bruch. The generations (sorted by time) were: 1) Andreas GOHLKE (born ?, died ?); 2) Carl Ludwig GOHLKE (born 1791, died ?); 3) Karl Friedrich Wilhelm GOHLKE (born 1818, died 1897); 4) Carl August GOHLKE (born 1871, died ?);
They were all married to women either from Alt Gurkowsch Bruch or from the area around Landsberg / Warte (Guscht, Guschterbruch, Guschterhollaender - today Goszczanowo, Lipke, Alt-Lipke - today Lipki Wielki, Annenaue, Darbendorf, Schoenefeld - here the Polish names are unknown to me). Names in these branches: SCHULZ, MEYER, SCHNELL, DICKHOFF, SICHEL / STICHEL ?, LUECK, FANSELOW, KRUEGER, GOLIKE, BENGSCH, RAASCHEN, WEDDERMANN, SCHWANDT. As far as I know all have been Lutheran. I would be really glad about any information that helps me with the family research. That includes information about the GOHLKEs in general (missing birth / marriage / death dates, siblings etc.), and the identification of their hometowns (Polish names today?). Thanks in advance,


HOBBS, Maxine
eMail address: mdhobbs@gwis.com


I am seeking information on my grandfather, Robert Otto MUELLER, born 14 December 1859 to William and Rosalie MUELLER at Cottbus, Brandenburg. Robert died at Elmira New York in 1926 leaving a brother Albert MUELLER at Frankfurt am Main and a brother Otto MUELLER at Franfurt an der Oder, plus nieces Margaret MUELLER who settled at Woodmere Long Island, New York, and Gertrude MUELLER, nephews William MUELLER and Paul MUELLER. Robert MUELLER arrived at New York about 1885 and was organist, choir director of the First German Evangelical Church at Elmira NY. How do I find the right Evangelical parish records for his baptism in Cottbus? And how can I trace any kin in Germany with such a common name? I would appreciate your suggestions.



KAY, Peter
162 Thulin Street, Campbell, British Columbia, Canada V9W 2K5


I am researching my family history in parts of Germany in 1700 that are now Poland. All of the wills and documents I have all list Brandenberg province (now Poland). Andreas KRAUS was born in 1764 in Brandenberg (town or province?), died 1835. His wife was Johanne Henriette STOCK who died in 1834. The latest burial certificate I have is for Johann August Andreas KRAUS who died at Biesdorf in 1849.

Part of my problem is access to maps and apparently none are available up here. To date I have had no response to my letter to the Berlin archives. The places that I am looking for include Prishelwitz, Ost Prussia, Bierdorf (1790's), Praus Nitz (1793), Gremmentin (a game keeper is listed in 1793), Luben (1793), Probsthayn (1602), Kreydelwitz (1900) and the Augustberg district of Frezberg, which I believe to be present day Augustberg, east of Chemnitz. Would you please advise as to where I could find maps or a gazetteer for Prussia Germany in 1600 - 1700? I am not on the Internet.
Webmaster's Note: Please contact Genealogy Unlimited in Utah and Travel Genie Maps in Iowa for the maps you are looking for.


KLUKAS, Charles
Duncan, Oklahoma
eMail address: oldfo@starcomm.net


We are searching for information about John Julius (or Julius John) KLUKAS born 13 December 1853 December in Germany, He lived in Posen. His wife was Albertina Johanna BRIDLAUGH, born 26 May 1859 also in Germany. He emigrated from Germany in 1883 (port unknown) and is next found at Steubenville Ohio in the 1918 directory. He died at Short Creek, West Virgina in 1939. We do know that he was a Officer in the Palace Guards for Kaiser Wilhelm. The parents on both sides are unkown. One of the chlidren was John Julius my grandfather. He was born in Germany in 1879.



MENARY, Kathy
eMail address: MenaryJ.K@xtra.co.nz


Frank Herman STELTER was born 10 November 1888 at Stettin, Grabow, Germany. His Father Herman Richard Stelter and Mother Mary Stelter, Maiden name RUDOLF, moved from Sweden to Germany. Frank had at least 2 sisters, one a twin dying at an early age. His father was a sea captain in Norway during the sardine season and followed his brother to Germany to take up a boat building trade. He arrange an apprenticeship for his son Frank, who then stowed away overseas at the age of 13. He arrived in New Zealand where he later married and had a family. He lost contact with his family during World War I. As family descendants we would like to know if there are any surviving relatives. I originally thought the family was from Switzerland but it has been confirmed they are Swedish. Is the surname Stelter known differently in Sweden?
Webmaster's Notes: Stettin (now , Poland), on the Oder River that has divided Germany from Poland since the 1945 Yalta aggreement, was Berlin's seaport from the early 1800's until World War II. However Sweden controlled the part of the German province of Pommern west of the Oder River from the treaty of Osnabrück - circa 1648 - the end of the 30 years religious war - until the early 1800's, roughly the time of Napolean's north European adventures.

Sweden thus controlled the five major north German seaports for over a century after the 30 years war (from Wismar east) and this included Stettin. It was negotiated as part of the Osnabrueck treaty (probably to blut the possibility of any invasion of its homelands). Thus for a seafaring family, moving from Sweden to Stettin was really no big deal, and probably a matter of accepting a job. So you best start searching Swedish records now. I know of no reason to believe the spelling of the Stetler surname should have changed from Germany to Sweden, especially since Stetler has no diacritical marks.


PUPPE, James L.
114 22nd Avenue North, Fargo, North Dakota 58102-
eMail Address: jpuppe@yahoo.com


1) August PUPPE, born 8 June 1839 and this wife, the former Dorothea SIEWERT, born 20 February 1839 in reported Brandenburg. Information passed down was that the Puppe family came from a village approximately 80 miles from Berlin. Mrs. Puppe's parents, Friedrich Siewert, born 5 July 1816 and Louise GRUNDMAN) Siewert, born 20 January 1817, who came from Hardenburgh (also spelled Hartenberg). August Puppe and his family emigrated to Red Wing, Mn area during May 1873. I am looking for help to locate ancestral home in former Prussia.

2) My ancestral home is Hardenberg, East Germany. It is about 30 miles east of Berlin just west of the Oder River. I would like to have someone take photos and provide a description what is happening there such as activity, churches, cemeteries and etc. Any leads?
Webmaster's Note: Contact Jim Derheim of European Focus Photography -- that is his specialty and he does an excellent job of it as a professional photographer.

Jim Derheim's Note: I'm a professional photographer and fellow FEEFHS member with a website that I invite you to visit http://www.eurofocus.com.


REARDON, Dan
P.O. Box 76, RR#1, Vittoria Ontario CANADA
eMail address: dreardon@cpnevents.com


My gr-grandfather was Oswald JUDATZ born 13 April 1860, reputedly at Forst en Lausitz, Lausatia. He was academy educated in Berlin before marrying Anna SCHULTZ - born 31 August 1861 in Essen. They married in Germany (place unknown) and emigrated to the USA before 1888. An uncle tells the story that Oswald's half-brother inherited the family cabinet making business in Forst and essentially ran it bankrupt. Oswald returned to Forst sometime between 1900 and 1914 to settle the estate of this half brother after his death. I would be grateful for advice or assistance in researching cabinet making businesses operating in and around Forst from about 1850 to 1900.

I would also welcome any advice or comments one might have on the surname JUDATZ. I have yet to find any other US occurance of this surname as spelled above. I have been advised this may be an anglicized corruption of the surname JUDAS. I have also encountered two researchers investigating the Polish name JUDASCZ. Several German nationals suggest it may be of Jewish origin although Oswald himself was an active Lutheran, helping to found an Evangelical Lutheran church in North Hartford CT where he settled.
Webmaster's Note: Forst en Lausitz is located in Brandenburg, Prussia and several FHL microfilm collections exist of some of the town's churchbooks. You best determine Oswald's religion before you start a serious search. Try checking the IGI (International Genealogical Index) and the Ancestral File at your closest LDS Family History Center. Then try Ahnenstammkartei des Deutschen Volkes.


RITTMAN, Anne
126 Sunny Meade Lane #5, Madison, Wisconsin 53713- , USA
eMail address: intsimxx@execpc.com


I am looking for any information regarding Henriette FENNER, born in Brandenburg, Prussia 27 March 1835. She emigrated to America in 1856 and married August GARTMANN 10 October 1856 at Sheboygan, Wisconsin where she remained the rest of her life. They had 15 children...some named Charles (Karl) Ferdinand, Albert, Fred, and F.W. She died 27 June 1897.
Webmaster's Note: Of the 28 citations of the Fenner name in the Surname Search section of the FHL Catalog, you might want to check record #19 - from Belzeg (sic) Brandenburg. There is a Belzig, Brandenburg for which Evangelische churchbook records (1805-1872) exist on 5 reels of FHL microfilm. For Gartmann, there are two citations pointing to Graubünden (Graubuenden / Graubunden), a Germanic part of Switzerland.


RUSSELL, Kathy
8008 Rutherford Road, Yakima, Washington 98903-, USA
eMail address: Kath2slc@aol.com


In recent weeks I located my ancestors on the 1819 Census of Mecklenburg. They were Hans Heinrich FRICK, who's birth information says he was born 4 August 1774 at Maulbeerwalde by Wittstock and his wife was Marg. Elis. FILTER or VILTER, who was born at Prodohl, Parish of Falkenhagen on 24 December 1761. They had a son, my great great grandfather, Johann Friedrich Christian FRICK. He was born 14 June 1806 at Mayenburg, Parish of Mayenburg. I am told all locations are in Brandenburg. My question is, are there any films available at the Family History Center in Salt Lake City for the above mentioned towns? I am planning a trip there in two weeks. Thank you for your help.
Webmaster's Note: You do not mention the religion, but the only FHL films I see are for Jewish records at Wittstock.


SHAEDE, Eric A.
eMail address: eashaede@100mile.net


I am searching for information about the SCHAEDE (webnote: see also SCHÄDE) family from the town of Kuestrin, Brandenburg, Germany (now Kostrzyn, Poland). My father, Eric Albert SCHAEDE, was born at Kuestrin 10 April 1904 and emigrated to Canada in 1929. His father's name was Albert SCHAEDE and his mother's name was Flora SINOFUSS. I know that there were several other children in this family but do not know their names. I would like to correspond with anyone who has any experience in researching civil and church records for Kuestrin for the period from 1890 to 1920. I have tried the various Internet sources of genealogical information and the FHL sources, but have not yet found any information about my father's family or Kuestrin. Any information about where I can find the old civil and church records for the town of Kuestrin would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help.



SCHROEDER, Jerry
2048 South Salida Street, Aurora, Colorado 80013-, USA eMail address: jerryfran@earthlink.net


I am searching for the parents of Ferdinand Fredr. Wilhelm SCHROEDER. He was born 24 February 1862 at Schwachenwalde, Neumark, Germany. He married Auguste MUELLER in Germany (date and place unknown). Auguste MUELLER was born at Geilenfelde, Brandenburg, Germany, 14 April 1861. Her parents were Johann Carl Ludwig MUELLER and Johanna Wilhelmina HUMBOLDT. Ferdinand and Auguste SCHROEDER emigrated to the U.S. in 1894. They came with 6 children and settled in the area of Split Rock, Wisconsin. I know that Schwachenwalde is now Chlopowo, Poland. I would like information on the parents of Ferdinand SCHROEDER and the marriage date for Ferdinand and Auguste SCHROEDER as well as information on Neumark.



TIEDMANN, Robert G.
Croydon, England
eMail address: TiedemannG@aol.com


I am trying to find out more about Charlotte MUETZEL (MÜTZEL) nee GUETZLAFF (GÜTZLAFF) who after her marriage lived at Kremlin, Kreis Soldin. She had a daughter called Emilie. By the 1830s she was widowed and subsequently married a Mr. PITSCHOVIUS. I am particularly interested to find out whether Kremlin had a church and where the relevant parish registers are to be found.
Webmaster's Note: With the extreme brevity of your submission, and the subsequent absence of all vital dates of those listed above or of their unnamed children and with no religion listed, it is not possible to answer your question in the manner in which we would prefer. Furthermore we find no location named Kremlin in Brandenburg, although there is a location named Kremmin.


VOJTA, Alvena
eMail address: AVojta4658@aol.com


I am looking for forefathers of Ferdinand KRAUSE who lived at Grossbriesen, Saxony, Germany and then moved to Brandenberg before 1877. His daughter was confirmed 22 March 1891 at St. Paul's Church there. They came to America shortly thereafter and I have the records from the US. If you can help me, write. Thanks.



WILHELM, Candace M.
eMail address: adwcmw@aol.com

(Lutheran)

I am researching Johann Ludwig MUELLER (he went by Louis MILLER later in life). His father was August MUELLER (born in Illinois) and his mother was Emilie Ernestine HABERLAND (born at Luckenwalde, Brandenburg, Germany, the daughter of Karl Gottfried HABERLAND and Charlotte Emilie UEBEL from Lindow (Mark) Brandenburg, Germany. August and Emilie (HABERLAND) MUELLER were married in 1877 in St. Clair County, Illinois and Johann Ludwig was born later that year.

In 1880, the family was listed in Central Township, St. Louis County, Missouri. I would like to know which Lutheran church they might have attended in Central Township. I have pictures of this family that I would like to have identified. I would especially like to learn where August MUELLER was from, who were his parents, and what happened to him. After living at Little Rock, Arkansas for a few years, Louis MILLER moved to Lane County, Oregon with his grandmother, Charlotte Emilie UEBEL HABERLAND and uncles at the turn of the century. They were Lutheran. Emilie Ernestine (HABERLAND) MUELLER married Louis SELVITZ in 1886 at Little Rock, Arkansas.
Webmaster's Note: While no church records appear in the 17th CD ROm edition of the FHL Catalog, there is a 1914 city dirctory, 1860-1916 military records, 1833-1922 Jewish records and a gazetteer on FHL microfilm for Luckenwalde, Brandenberg, Germany.


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