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Regions included:
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- Batschka
- Slovenia
- Syrmien
- Schwaebisch Turkei
- other areas settled by ethnic Germans (primarily
Danube-Swabians and
Transylvania
Saxons) in
- Hungary
- Romania
- Serbia
- Croatia....
Submit entries/corrections to: Norbert Bambach at 72730.633@compuserve.com
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Norbert
SADORF, RICHARD J.
eMail adress: 76400.2032@compuserve.com
The Banat areas of particular interest to me are in the pre-WWI
counties of
Torontal and Temes - now in Romania. The following towns
(Hungarian version)
and surnames apply:
Torontal County - Sandorhaza, Bogaros, Csatad, and Hatzfeld -
SADORF, SCHANEN,
SCHWEBERGER.
Temes County - Mehala, Triebswetter, Kistelep, Ketfel, and
Temesvar - MICHEL,
WAGNER, HORRA, SADORF.
SCHARF, FRANK
eMail address:
dogdok@pacbell.net
Region: Batschka
Village:Cservenka
Surnames: SCHARF, ROTH
Looking for any info on KARL SCHARF married to ELISABETH BURKE.
Children:
PETER
born 28 AUG 1892, MARGARET, KARL
Region: Batschka
Surnames: ROTH, ZIMMERMAN, KLEIN, MILLER
Village: Gakowa
Any info on PETER ROTH married HELEN ZIMMERMAN, CHILD FRANZ ROTH
father of
HELEN ROTH. FRANZ KLEIN marrried JULIA MILLER, child EVA KLEIN
mother of
HELEN
ROTH. HELEN ROTH born 1 April 1897.
SCHLEIS, PAULA
eMail address: yntd28a@prodigy.com
Names and towns:
SCHLEISS (towns of Csavoly and Gorjani),
SEIGFRIED and SCHNITZLER (both names from Karavukova),
ZENGRAF (from Arad),
GIRICZ (from Temerin)
SCHUETZ / SCHÜTZ , KURT LUDWIG
eMail address:
cadcam@micro-net.com
Looking for information on Schuetz / Schütz family in
Hatzfeld Family had large tailor
business in Hatzfeld run by brothers, Nickolas and Ludwig Schuetz
/ Schütz (early
1900's)
Made uniforms for the local castles. Also: Bockmueller /
Bockmüller, Mai, Funk,
Janner,
Klein, Matee, Westhoff, all from Hatzfeld (.
SCHULTZ, STEPHEN
eMail address:
s.schultz@dlcwest.com
My great grandfather was Mathias SCHULTZ, 1844 - 1928 and my
great grandmother was
Mairiana
WEIST. Both came from Georgehausen, Torontal County, Banat in
1902? to McTaggart,
Saskatchewan, Canada. Anyone know of any siblings to these two
or possibly their parents?
SCHWARTZ, GLENN
eMail address: schwartc@meena.cc.uregina.ca
SEARCHING:
Zichydorf (also known as Zichyfalva, Mariolana, and Plandiste),
Banat,
Austria-Hungary for
SCHWARTZ, KLECKNER, KECK, FLEISCHHACKER, PILLMAN. Also any other
Zichydorf names for the Zichydorf Village
Association.
Kudritz (also known as Guderica and Temes Kutas), Banat,
Austria-Hungary
for
SCHUSSLER, MILLEKER, BASTIUS, LENHART, GUTJOR, HIRTH, SPECHT,
SAGSTATTER, GOTTESGRABER, LEER.
Baginsberg, Kolomea, Galicia, Austria-Hungary for
BARDUA, HEUCHERT, THOMAS, DECH.
Neudorf (also known as Nowy Wies), Tlumacz, Galicia,
Austria-Hungary for
KANDEL.
Strassburg (and Neu-Schloessel), Kutschurgan colonies, Odessa,
Russia for
HOLZER, KRAFT, MITZEL, GEIGER.
Micheltal?/Vesely Kut?, Kutschurgan colonies?, Odessa, Russia
for
KUNTZ, WOLFE.
Baden and Selz, Kutschurgan colonies, Odessa, Russia for
FOLK, Jacob.
Russia (Volga or Black Sea Germans) for
MACHT.
RESOURCES:
Geschichte der Gemeinde Zichydorf by Johann Achtzener.
Several Saskatchewan local histories with pioneers from Zichydorf
and the
Black Sea region of Russia.
MEMBER - Zichydorf Village Association (ZVA) http://feefhs.org/zva/frg-zva.html
SCHWEINSBERG, ALLEN
email address: aschwein@bucknell.edu
region: Neppendorf (now Turnisou) in Romania, just outside
Hermanstadt (now
Sibiu).
Names include: HUBER, REISENAUER, LEDERER, SCHNELL, LEONBACHER,
LICHTENECKER, LIEBHART, RASTEL, THIEL, BEER, BEERENKOPF (most of
these
are "Landler" names as opposed to "Saxon" names).
Resources: LDS microfilm of Neppendorf records.
SIMPSON, LUCY
eMail: lsimpson@wyoming.com
Researching:
STARCEVICH m. CECULICH
STARCEVICH m. YAKOVIC
CECULICH m. CRYNIC
They were from Mrkopalj, Hrvatska, Yugoslavia
They came to the U.S. in the late 1800's.
SPECKERT, GENE K.
eMail address: geneks@i1.net
In the 60s my father, Wendell P. KUNDERMANN, wrote about the life
of his
family in Varoslod, (Vesprem county) Hungary, living a while in
Sao Paula,
Brazil, back to Varoslod, then to Akron, Ohio and later to St.
Louis,
Missouri, where he married and had me as an only
child. We made these several pages into an illustrated booklet,
and that is
probably what gave me the genealogy virus. He corresponded
regularly with
his cousin in Hungary and visited her a number of times, the last
being in
1979 when I went along.
There I met a number of relatives and continued frequent written
contact
with a distant cousin who spoke and wrote English. His letters
were
surprisingly candid and profound and thorough. He was very
knowledgeable about
life in Hungary historically and after 1979, including the
influence of the
communists, events leading to the changes in government and the
ongoing
transition, with its many facets. I have since visited him
twice, the last
time being in July, 1994. He died in Dec., 1995, and I greatly
mourn him as
a person and as an aid in knowing about life in Hungary.
In addition, my son living in Germany (for 20+ years) and I have
done some
supplementary things in genealogical research.
In 1992-3 we hired Sigmital / Magyar-Olasz Kft. / Budapest,
Hungary to
research the family (Sigma Famila Ltd.). They sent copies of the
appropriate
records, church and civil. I have found at least one or two of
them in
FHC microfilm also.
For general historical background my son and I have accumulated a
large number
of books about the history of Germany, the Austrian-Hungarian
Empire, and
Hungary. Many of these were purchased on our visits there. In
1994 I went to Hungary
(also
Warsaw and Prague) on an Elderhostel. Among the places we went
was an outdoor
historical
museum reproducing the life in many areas and time periods in
Hungary. I particularly like
the
explanatory booklet from there. Also, we went to the
Ethnographic Museum in Budapest,
and I
greatly enjoyed videotaping things there as well. I also take
many, many slide photos on
trips.
OK-now for some exact names and dates: Although my son and I
have traced many, many
family
roots from Germany as far back as the 1400s I will only include
the Germans to Hungary. If
you are
interested any of the others, let me know. Some are from
southern Germany, others from
further
north.
My father:
KUNDERMANN, Wendell Peter...Born 5 Aug. 1895, Varoslod (Vesprem)
Aus.-Hung.
Died 29 May, 1986, St. Louis, Mo., U.S.A.
The other KUNDERMANNs:
Vendel...Born 12 Mar 1871, Ajkarendek, (near or in Vesprem),
Aus.-Hung.
Died 19 Feb 1898, Sao Paulo, Brazil
Mihaly...Born 27 Apr 1836, Tosokberend, (near or in Vesprem, I
think) A-H.
Died 8 Feb 1866, Ajkarendek, Aus.-Hung.
Janos...Born 10 Jun 1795, Tosokberend, Aus.-Hung. Died 1866
Michael....Born 1770. Died 6 Feb 1826
KUNDERMANN Spouse names; more info available if you want it.
Also information available about siblings in many families noted
AMENT,
Cecilia; TOLTL, Katalin; KLAZERN,Theresia; BAUER, Maria (and
usually their
parents)
Vendel KUNDERMANN married Borbala (Barbara) CZIMMERMANN /
ZIMMERMANN
15
Jan 1895.
CZIMMERMANNS / ZIMMERMANNS:
Barbara Born 19 Oct 1872, Varoslod, (Vesprem), Aus.-Hun.Died 6
Apr 1960,
St. Louis, Mo., U.S.A.
Gyorgy (her father) Born 5 Oct 1832, Varoslod. Died, unknown
date,
Varoslod.
Michael Born, Died, unknown date. His records show the Z spelling
rather
than CZ, leading us to think he might be the generation coming to
(present)
Hungary from (present) Germany.
Spouses: ALICH, Susanna; GAJER, Katalin; FREUND, Dorottya
ZIMMERMANN, Johann (Hans) Georg, came from Essleben, now southern
Germany, in
1725 to
Pille, the town which preceded the present Varoslod, Veszprem
County, Hungary.
Spouse names of the several Zimmermanns were SCHENDER / SAUER,
SCHELL,
HUFFGARTH,
GEYER (GAJER) and ALICH. The ALICH line includes FREUND. Spouse
names of
Zimmermann
lines which were not directly related to me: DUNKEL, HOCHHAUS,
KELLER.
STAMM, MICHAEL D.
eMail address: stamm@texas.net
Surnames:
BANYART; BARBANKIE; BERENG; BLIESZ; BLOCHART;
BOTHGARBER;
BRENNER; DELB; HÖH / HOEH; KELNER; LAFLE or LAFLEUR;
LIEBLANG or LE BLANC; NUBER; SCHÖN / SCHOEN; SCHWARTZ;
STEFHAN or STEFAN
Villages (current country):
Heufeld, Yugoslavia
Kolut, Yugoslavia
Marienfeld Romania
Masztort, Yugoslavia
Molidorf, Yugoslavia
St. Hubert, Yugoslavia
probably also: Charleville, Soltur, and Henriettenhof, all in
Yugoslavia, and Dugoszella,
Romania
Generation 5:
5) Johann NUBER (1879, Molidorf, Hungary --- 1950, Detroit,
Michigan, USA)
6) m. Anna SCHWARTZ (1880, Molidorf, Hungary --- 1948, Detroit,
Michigan,
USA)
7) Franz LIEBLANG (1872, Molidorf, Hungary --- 1948, Detroit,
Michigan, USA)
(spelling later changed to LEBLANG) 8) m. Maria BLIESZ (1873,
Molidorf, Hungary ---
1935, Detroit, Michigan, USA)
Generation 6:
10) Wilhelm NUBER (died Molidorf, Hungary, pre-1914) 11) m.
Susanna BERENG (1853,
est. Masztort, Hungary---1923, Detroit, Michigan, USA)
12) Johann SCHWARTZ (? --- ?)
13) m. Catharina BOTHGARBER (could also have been
ROTHGERBER)
14) Georg LIEBLANG (1846, Molidorf, Hungary --- ?) 15) m.Barbara
BERENG (? ---
?)
16) Johann BLIESZ (1841, St. Hubert, Hungary --- ?) 17) m. Anna
Maria BARBANKIE
(1849, Molidorf, Hungary --- ?)
Generation 7:
20) Nicolaus NUBER (1820, Marienfeld, Hungary --- 1883, Molidorf,
Hungary)
21) m. Catharina BANYART (? --- ?)
22) Peter BERENG (1827, St. Hubert, Hungary --- ?) 23) m.Marianna
STEFHAN (1829,
Heufeld, Hungary)
28) Casparus LIEBLANG (1801, St. Hubert, Hungary) 29) m.
Catharina BRENNER (? ---
?)
30) Josephus BERENG (probably a brother of Peter BERENG, #22,
above) 31) m.
Madalena KELNER (could also have been KELNAR)
32) Joannes BLIESZ
33) m. Marianne LAFLE (could also have been LAFLEUR)
34) Johannes BARBANKIE
35) m. Maria BLOCHART
Generation 8:
40) Joannes NUBER (1784, Marienfeld, Hungary --- ?) 41) m.
Catharina SCHWARTZ
(1783, Marienfeld, Hungary --- ?)
56) Mathias LEBLANG (1779, Masztort, Hungary --- 1863, St.
Hubert, Hungary)
57) m. Anna Maria HÖH / HOEH
Generation 9:
80) Johann NUBER (1746 --- 1828, Marienfeld, Hungary) 81) m.
Catharina DELB (1756 ---
1816, Marienfled, Hungary)
82) Jacobus SCHWARTZ (? --- ?)
83) m. Anna HÖH / HOEH (? --- 1783, Marienfeld,
Hungary)
112) Mathias LE BLANC (1745 --- 1806, Masztort, Hungary) (he or
one of his wives were
from Forsbach, Lorraine) 113) m. Anna Maria SCHÖN / SCHOEN
(1750,
Marienthal, Luxembourg --- 1788, Masztort, Hungary)
114) Jacobus HÖH / HOEH (? --- ?)
115) m. ???
Generation 10:
160) Peter NUBER (in Kolut, Hungary in 1764, Marienfeld, Hungary
by 1770)
162) Mathias DELB (1718 --- 1793, Marienfeld, Hungary)
164) Jacobus SCHWARTZ (1741 --- 1771, Marienfeld, Hungary) 165)
m. ???
224) Georg LE BLANC (probably a brother, could be a father of
#112)
STROTMAN, TERRI B.
eMail address: pstrotman@earthlink.net
BISCHOF, BREYER, GEIST, HUNSDORFER / HUNFALVY, LESCH, SCHARF,
WEBER
Phillip SCHARF married Elisabetha WEBER in Tscherwenka,
(Czervenka) in the Batschka
region of
what became Yugoslavia. He died circa 1895-96. She died in
1926. Both in this town.
Their
children were:
- Christina b. 14 Dec 1885 (my husband's grandmother)
- Katherine
- Karl
- Henry
- Phillip
- Adam
- Rose
These are the names as I was provided by one of my
mother-in-law's cousins.
Philip SCHARF, Sr. was a tailor. He was killed in a threshing
machine
accident. Karl SCHARF died of gassing in WW I. He had a daughter
Eleanor who
married Peter SCHMIDT and lived in Göppingen / Goeppingen,
Germany. Phillip Jr.
married a woman named Sophie. Rose SCHARF married a Nicholas
LESCH who was
from Banat. They lived in Benton Harbor, Michigan.
I'm also interested in the surname: GEIST and the surname:
BISCHOF. Karl BISCHOF
married the daughter of Christina SCHARF, Katherine, here in the
U.S., but he was also
from
near Tscherwenka; he is believed to be from Werbass. He died
when his children were
young and their mother never talked much about her hometown or
relatives.
I am also looking for information about the HUNSDORFER and/or
BREYER
families. My husband's grandfather was Samuel HUNSDORFER, b. 1
Mar 1886 in
what was then Neuwaldorf, Austria-Hungary, and is now called Nova
Lesna,
Spis County, Slovakia. ( I think) His father's name was Johann
HUNSDORFER.
His mother's name was Maria Susana BREYER. (d. 1903,
Neuwaldorf.)
Samuel emigrated to the United States in 1902.
The surname, HUNSDORFER, was also spelled HUNFALVY. I believe
there was at
least one well-know academic by that name in the mid-1800s.
Samuel had two brothers, one who died as an infant and one who
died in WW II;
and one sister who was expatriated to what became East Germany
post WW II.
We have been told that these families were in this town in the
Tatra / Carpathian Mts. for several generations. This was a
German settlement
until after World War II. There was a mountain named Hunsdorfer
Spitze, near
Lomnitzer Spitze, according to a hiking book written in German in
the 1880's.
The men in the family were well - known for their skill as hiking
guides.
The town was near a place called "Stary Smokovec". The largest
town nearby
was Poprad.
I'd appreciate any information that would add to what I have (all
of which is
included here) or would direct me to useful sources here in the
U.S.
STROUD, VERONICA BEINSTINGEL
eMail address: strd@alaska.net
Surnames: BEINSTINGEL, BARDON, HARFMAN, BLUM
Locations: Backa Palanka; Nijemci, Yugoslavia; Vienna, Austria;
Passau, Germany and
USA.
I am currently trying to locate any and all information on the
BEINSTINGEL surname.
Following is a brief on what I know to date and a list of
associated surnames and locations.
My father; Carl BEINSTINGEL born 25 June 1938 Nijemci,
Yugoslavia; came to the USA
with his parents Josef BEINSTINGEL (born 20 August 1909 Nijemci,
Yugoslavia, married
in Nijemci, died Burlington, New Jersey) and Magdalena HARFMAN
BEINSTINGEL (born
8 February 1909 Yugoslavia, died 4 April 1994 Burlington, New
Jersey) on 17 November
1951 via Hamburg, Germany. They settled in Burlington, New
Jersey at 10 Center Avenue
where they built a Homestead.
My father is the youngest of 3 children and the only son. Eva
BEINSTINGEL Wallenta is
the eldest and Anna BEINSTINGEL Nigl is the middle child. The
information that I have at
this point is all handed down from family. Following is a list
of the BEINSTINGEL lineage
as best as I know it:
Josef BEINSTINGEL (father of: Duro BEINSTINGEL; Josef was born 11
September 1882
Backa Palanka, married in Nijemci, crushed to death by a mill
stone) married
Magdalena BARDON (born in Nijemci) parents of
- Josef BEINSTINGEL (born 20 August 1909 Yugoslavia) married
Magdalena HARFMAN
(parents were Christina BLUM (from Bonovce, died 1942) and Jakob
HARFMAN;
Magdalena was born 8 February 1909, died 4 April 1994) They were
parents of Carl
BEINSTINGEL born 25 June 1938 Nijemci, Yugoslavia
I can supply a gedcom file for the siblings and other information
that might be needed. I
have been contacted by an Austrian-Hungary research group that
says they have a record of a
Philipp BEINSTINGEL being married in Vienna, Austria in 1740. I
am awaiting more
information on those records. My grandfather Josef BEINSTINGEL
was in WW II, I am
told as a soldier out of Yugoslavia. He went to Poland and later
the family lost contact with
him. He was located by the Red Cross in 1948 in a POW camp in
Italy. In 1944 the family
was taken to Vienna where they stayed till 1945 at which time
they were then moved by train
to Passau, Germany. They stayed in Passau until they came to the
USA in 1951.
STUKENBORG, RICHARD
eMail address: stuknbrg@gis.net
Also: rstukenborg@draper.com
Searching: KAUSCH, STRAUS, WILD
in:-------- Setschan, Sartscha, Stefansfeld, Yugoslavia
----------- Uivar, Romania
SWIHART, DON
eMail address: charm@EriNet.com
Hungarian surnames KATONA and LORENZ.
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