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Hannover Research List Archive 021
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Latest update: 21 November 2002 ............................... WebSite Version

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The following are found on this HANRL page:
- no postings since 12 August 2001
- entry for BROWN, Chocy, 16 December 2001
- entry for CARPENTER, Connie, 16 December 2001
- entry for CHAMBERS, Harold, 16 December 2001
- entry for DAVEY, Susanna CUNNINGHAM, 16 December 2001
- entry for DIVAN, Marge, 16 December 2001
- entry for DOUGLASS, Mary CLEMENT, C.G.R.S.
- entry for FELD, Steve, 16 December 2001
- entry for FIDELDY, Carol H., 16 December 2001
- entry for FRIES, Harlean, 16 December 2001
- entry for GREIMANN, Horst, 16 December 2001
- entry for GRIFFITHS, Susan GRIMM, 16 December 2001
- entry for HOBSON, Emma, 16 December 2001
- entry for LANNOM, Carole, 16 December 2001
- entry for MAAG, Mary Lou, 16 December 2001
- entry for MYLIN, Kate, 16 December 2001
- entry for NELSON, Laquetta CLARK, 16 December 2001
- entry for PERRETT, Danielle, 16 December 2001
- entry for SWOPE, Cynthia, 16 December 2001
- entry for SZARO, Mary, 16 December 2001
- entry for THAMAN, Sharon, 16 December 2001
- entry for VANLAW, Peter, 16 December 2001
- entry for VON BERGEN, Leslie MAYER, 16 December 2001
- entry for WILSON, Nancy, 16 December 2001
- entry for McDONNELL, Cora L., 14 May 2002
- revised eMail address for DAVEY, Susanna CUNNINGHAM, 11 June 2002


BROWN, Chocy
eMail address: Chocybrown@aol.com
(German Evangelical)

I am looking for information on Adam DILLER and Elizabeth BERGE before they appear on the 1850 Federal Census for Bruce Township, (now Streator), La Salle county, Illinois. Adam DILLER was born 14 March 1822 in Hannover, Saxony, Germany and he died 15 August 1885 in Otter Creek Township, (now South Streator), La Salle county, Illinois. His wife, Elizabeth BERGE was born about 27 June 1824 in Mecklenburg, Germany and died 9 July 1869 in Otter Creek Township, La Salle county, Illinois.
The history of "La Salle County, Illinois" states that Adam and Elizabeth BERGE DILLER came to America in the 1840's. I am looking for the ship and port where they arrived. Did they lived somewhere else before coming to Otter Creek? I need any information that would lead back to their home in Germany. I believe that Adam could have had a sister named Barbara. Adam was married two more times after Elizabeth's death. His wifes were Fredericka ISERMAN who was born about 18 September 1827 at Hanovic, Hessclaste, Germany and died 12 February 1875 in Otter Creek, Illinois. He then married Caroline KRITZMAN / KITSMAN who was born in September of 1848 in Prussia. Caroline immigrated to American in 1874.

Adam and Elizabeth's children were: Frederick, Charles, Dorethea, Augusta, Elizabeth (Leah) Cora, Caroline, Mary "May" E, Emmaline R, Emma, William, George, Clara E., Fred R., Charlotte A. and Adam Henri. Adam and Caroline's children were: Adam E., Edward C., Ada, and Elmer. Adam DILLER belonged to the German Evangelical Church and was known for saving up his money and sending for a family member or friend to come to America. They would then work on his farm to pay him back and he would again send for someone else. He did this throughout his life. Any help would be greatly appreciated in finding Adam and Elizabeth BERGE DILLER's home and family.


CARPENTER, Connie
Clarkston, Michigan, USA
eMail address: connie_carpenter@hotmail.com

I am looking for information on my great-grandmother's family who came from Hanover, Germany. The name is Frederic REECAMPER born about 1821 and his wife Angeline WHITE (?) Some time between 1822 and 1850 they immigrated to the Toledo Ohio USA area along with two other women whom I presume to be their mothers, Mary (Angeline ?) REECAMPER and Angeline HARRINGSMAN along with Henry LUCIAN, their farm hand. There appears to be very little information on any REECAMPERS on the internet so I have very little information other than this. When they came to Ohio, they were farmers. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


CHAMBERS, Harold
eMail address: haroldsr@lightcom.net
(Evangelical Lutheran)

I am looking to find information on the relatives and birthplace in Hannover Province of a great-great grandfather Heinrich MESSERSCHMIDT and his wife Louise. Henrich and his wife Louise or Louisa emigrated from Hannover in 1867 from Bremen on the ship "Deutschland" arriving at the Port of New York 30 December 1867. The passenger list for the Deutschland was published in Germans to America, List of passengers arriving in U.S. Port, Volume 20, August 1867-May 1868, p. 278-279. Heinrich is listed as Heinr, 30 years of age, a male and his occupation being that of a farmer. Louise his wife was 29 years old, female and occupation unknown. The Province code was "H" which is the code for Hannover Province. Heinrich MESSERSCHMIDT and Louise were listed in the United States 1870 Census living at Loran, Stephenson county, Illinois. The couple was living with August VOLKER who had a 2 year old son Andreas. August was a farmer. His wife Anna BREIDENTHAL had died in 1867. This couple may have been relatives to Heinrich or Louise Messerschmidt. Louise's maiden name is unknown. On 27 March 1873 at Freeport, Stephenson County, Illinois, August VOLKER testified on Heinrich's behalf when he became a naturalized citizen of the United States. Heinrich now becomes known as Henry MESSERSCHMIDT. He was born 13 June 1837. In various United States Censuses he gives his birthplace as Hannover. About 1876 he moved from Illinois to Franklin and Hardin counties, Iowa. He lived in Osceola Township, Franklin county and at Ackerly, Hardin county, Iowa. In 1888 he moved to Eden Township, Codington county, South Dakota where he farmed. Henry died 1 December 1908 at Dexter, Codington county, South Dakota. Henry had at least four children by Louise. He married a second time to Luise (also known as Lizzie) LEITRITZ OR LEITERITZ of Centerville, Trempealeau county, Wisconsin on 27 February 1880 at Freeport, Stephenson county, Illinois at the Evangelical Lutheran Church. Henry and Lizzie had 11 children. I am looking for the birthplace and family ancestry of Heinrich, the date of his first marriage to Louise. Any information would be very much appreciated. Thank you.


DAVEY, Susanna CUNNINGHAM
eMail address: soosannamary@aol.com

I am researching the surname KLOHSS. All I know is the following: Charles KLOHSS of Hanover was the father of Josephine KLOHSS, born in Belgium 1821, married in England 1841 to William HEMINGS, on the marriage certificate. Charles KLOHSS is recorded as a Merchant. Many Thanks


DIVAN, Marge eMail address: navidfl@worldnet.att.net

I am looking for information about my great-grandmother, Anna SCHACHT, born at Eilvese, (near Neustadt an der Rubenberge, Germany) 26 May 1833 and died in Woodhaven, Queens county, New York, USA 5 June 1889. She was married to my great-grandfather, Albert REIMELS. Thank you.


DOUGLASS, Mary CLEMENT, C.G.R.S.
259 North Kansas, Salina, Kansas, 67401, U.S.A.
eMail address: mdoug-hm@swbell.net
(Lutheran)

Johann Heinrich / John Henry KAASE, his wife, Maria / Mary C. (unknown maiden name), and his mother Anna immigrated to America in August 1865 from Hannover. John was born 6 April 1832, Hannover. Mary was born 27 July 1832, Germany. Both were Lutherans. They settled originally in Cuyahoga County Ohio, then moved to Sebastian County, Arkansas, just south of Fort Smith. John was a truck gardener - growing vegetables for sale. Filby's Passenger and Immigration Lists Index notes a Johann KAAS with family, coming to America from Kreise Merzig in 1865. Where was the KAASE family from originally? Any help appreciated!


FELD, Steve
eMail address: Sachsen780@aol.com

My great, great grandfather Johan Clemens FELD was born in Hannover. Hannover, the city or (??) das Konigreich Hannover. A mystery like other mysteries. He was born 6 September 1828 to Bernard FELD and Catherine HEUAR, and may have had a sister named Helena Maria, one of the witnesses at his 7 December 1858 wedding to Mariana SCHONHOFF (of Lengerich) at St. Louis, Missouri. This couple "removed" to Quincy, Illinois during the summer of 1865. And now, back to the search.


FIDELDY, Carol H.
eMail address: fideldy@uslink.net
(Catholic?)

My husband Bill's great grandfather immigrated to the United States in 1866 (according to the 1900 Federal census of Minnesota), and states he was born April 1845 in Hannover, Germany. He was naturalized October, 1867 at Shakopee, Minnesota and stated he came from Prussia. His naturalization paper has his name as HEINRICK FIEDELDEI (he signed it Henry FIEDELDEI). He died as Henry FIDELDY at Hector, Minnesota and all his descendants use that spelling. In 1872 Henry married Helene RENNEBERG. Her brothers' and sisters' names are on on the marriage license and Catholic Church baptism records of their children born at New Market, Minnesota. There are no other FIDELDEI names found in these types of family records so we think Henry came to the United States alone. We want to know who Henry's family was and where they lived in Hannover. We also would like to know what ship he sailed on and where he arrived in America. We suspect Bremen was the port of departure, but possibly Hamburg. Thank you.


FRIES, Harlean Fries
eMail address: hlfries@pacbell.net

I am looking for information on the Adam HEISEL family. Adam was born between 1809-1813 and his wife Catherine was born about 1813, both in Hannover? Hesse Darstatt?? Germany. They had four daughters, Catherine, Elizabeth, Philippina and Anna. Their daughter Catherine married my great-grandfather in St. Clair county Illinois 7 April 1859. Their marriage license spells the surname HEISEL (HAUSSEL).


GREIMANN, Horst
eMail address: greimann@home.nl

I am looking for data of parents of following person - many thanks. Caspar Heinrich WEITKAMP, born 15 January 1823 at Melle, Amt. Melle, Hanover, Germany, died 12 November 1900 at Moscow Mills, Missouri, USA. He immigrated to the USA in 1855 via New Orleans, Louisiana; traveled up the Mississippi River to St. Charles, Missouri and St. Louis, Missouri) and from there to Capplen.


GRIFFITHS, Susan GRIMM
P.O. Box 1201, Margaret River, Western Australia 6285, AUSTRALIA
eMail address: cgsg@netserv.net.au
(Lutheran)

I am search for information on my ancestors. Georg Ernst Christian GRIMM (born 1812) and his wife, Henriette Auguste GRIMM (nee GIESKE, born 1814). I have been told that the lived at a town named Lautenthal, Hannover, Germany. They had four children (Ernst, Matilda, Henrietta, Eliza) before leaving Germany - Bremerhaven, 27 June 1846, iummigrating to Australia (Port Adelaide, South Australia) where they had a further six more children. I am also told that Georg's father was a Professor of Music and a teacher at a University in Hannover. I am also informed that Ernst was baptised at a Lutheran Church in Lautenthal. Any information of help will be very much appreciated.


HOBSON, Emma
Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
eMail address: ehobson@nc.rr.com

I understand my great-grandmother Doras SCHRADER, born 27 October 1836 in Hannover. She immigrated to the US sometime before 1860. She met and married Andrew FEUCHTENBERGER (born 17 October 1836 in Bavaria) on 7 June 1860 at Winchester Virginia. Later lived and died in Harrisonburg Virginia. I understand that the SCHRADER / SCHRAEDER may been spelled differently before coming to the US. I have no information on her family, parents, siblings, etc. I would appreciate info on her family.


LANNOM, Carole
eMail address: jlannom@fuse.net

Herman KLARE and Sophie Marie BROERMANN, Hannover, Germany immigrated to Cincinnati, Ohio, USA. My ancestor and gg-grandfather was Herman KLARE, born 18 September 1854 in Hannover, Germany. He died at Cincinnati, Ohio on 19 August 1935. He married Sophie Marie BROERMANN. I have been unable to find any information on his parents and siblings. I have his father as John KLARE of Hanover, Germany and his mother only as 'Mary'. Mary who ? I am searching for siblings, birth dates, marriage dates and death dates of the Herman KLARE family of Hannover, Germany. Thank you.


MAAG, Mary Lou
eMail address: Mlmaag6@cs.com

My great grandfather, UTERMOEHLEN Louis, born in Hannover Germany 8 December 1842, and my great grandmother, MUMME, or MUNNE, or MUMMA, Doretta was born in October 1850 in Hannover. My grandfather, UTERMOEHLEN Theodore, was born in Hannover 19 March 1869. They left Germany from Bremen on 1 July 1870 and arrived in the port of Baltimore, Maryland USA on 19 July 1870 according to my great grandfather's Naturalization Paper. My grandfather, Theodore, would have been approximately 16 months old at that time. The Naturalization Paper stated he denounced the King of Hannover and the Emperor of Germany which I believe would have been Prussia, Germany. I am trying to find where in Hannover the UTERMOEHLEN family lived and perhaps, who Louis or Doretta's parents were. I know there was a Louis UTERMOEHLEN who emigrated to the USA who lived at Goetingen but this "was not" the same Louis as that Louis came to the USA at a later time and did not settle in Dayton, Ohio. They lived at Springfield, Ohio for a short time after their immigration and settled in Dayton, Ohio. I would be very appreciative of any information regarding my above request. Thank you.


McDONNELL, Cora L.
2717 Hartsfield Rd.Tallahassee, Florida 32303-, USA
eMail address: coralmcdonnell@hotmail.com
(Protestant)

My grandfather, Otto Frederick RICHTER (born 16 August 1864 at ?, Germany; died 7 December 1908 at Memphis, Tennessee) immigrated to the USA as a teenager to avoid military service. One story says that he took the money given him for his tuition at military school to pay for passage to the United States, and that his mother never forgave him. Our search to learn his birthplace in Germany has been futile. According to my mother, Otto came to Memphis, Tennessee because the PALM family, which lived in his village, had a son who had immigrated to Memphis. We believe Otto lived with the family of Gustavus Adolphus PALM (born 11 July 1839 at ?, Prussia; died 27 January 1917 at Memphis, Tennessee) when he reached Memphis. When Otto died, G. A. PALM was appointed administrator of his estate. I found G. A. PALM and a brother ?, C. H. PALM, in the 1854 Hamburg Passenger Lists. Their birthplace (Geburtsort) was Celle, and, written in smaller letters below, Hannover. I assume this is the province of Hannover. Any information about RICHTER or PALM families near Celle would be greatly appreciated. Given on Mr. PALM's death certificate, the name of his father was Randolph PALM. My grandfather's death certificate gave his father's name as "Gus" RICHTER, either Gustav or August, I think. We have old photographs of my grandfather's mother, brother and two sisters, of which three pictures were made at Magdeburg or Gardelegen. My cousin says that the RICHTER family were "Junkers" so the location of these photographers may reflect moves from military posts. One photo of the older brother is in a Hussar uniform. I am certain that the PALMs and RICHTERs were Protestant. G. A. PALM belonged to the Presbyterian Church (Calvinist) in Memphis. Mr. PALM served in the 9th Mississippi Infantry during the American Civil War, and was a Confederate hero. I will be glad to send this story to anyone interested.


MYLIN, Kate
eMail address: smylin@hydrosoft.net

I'm interested in the parentage and or siblings of Johann Heinrich William GRUBE from Dorum Hannover. I have the marriage document which states where he was from dated 3 August 1884, married to BUSCH, Sophie Auguste from Otterdorf Hannover. Parentage, siblings or any information will be treasured. Thank you!


NELSON, Laquetta CLARK
eMail address: GPC1999@aol.com

I am looking for any infromation on Elizabeth (ANGER) CUNNINGHAM. She is my great-grandmother. She was born 24 March 1866 in Hannover Germany to August ANGER and Christianna MEYER (?). She immigrated, arriving in America (New York City, New York) in 1886. I was told by an aunt that her family was wealthy and that they disowned her because she married my great-grandfather, Lawrence CUNNINGHAM (they married 26 July, 1892 at New York City, New York), who was African American. They lived in the Bronx, New York at 726 Cortlandt Avenue for sixty four years. Elizabeth died there 10 March 1952 at the age of eighty six years old. I do not know whether or not she had any sisters or brothers. All of the information that I have I got from her death and marriage certificates. On her death certificate, the informant had listed Karl ANGER and Maria MEYER as her parents (could they be relatives?). On her marriage certificate she listed August ANGER and Christianna MEYER as her parents. Any information or guidance that you can give will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


PERRETT, Danielle
eMail address: ebilby@northnet.com.au
(Protestant)

I am trying to find relative Augustus William HARTMANN. He was born in April 1818 in Hannover Germany. I am trying to find any record of his birth and who his parents were. Augustus immigrated to Australia around 1848, although I haven't found any immigration records as yet. He married a Matilda SMITH an in Australia in 1861. Augustus died in 1901 aged 83 and is buried in a cemetery in New South Wales, Australia in the Church of England section, so I believe he was not a Roman Catholic. His wife Matilda was from England I am trying to find any German relatives of Augustus William HARTMANN and a record of his birth. Any help on this or where to look would be most appreciated. Thankyou


SWOPE, Cynthia
eMail address: Alfonsa@aol.com

Christian REINECKE was born, I assume, between 1815 and 1840, based on his known brother Wilhelm's own birthdate (Please see details on Wilhelm and his progeny which will follow what is known of Christian). Parents of Christian and Wilhelm REINECKE or any other siblings to them are unknown to me. Christian REINECKE resided at Haverbeck, near Hameln, Province of Hannover, Germany, but where he was born I can not say, neither where it is he died, though I assume it was Haverbeck. This "resided Haverbeck" is referenced in a letter dated 1927 from Germany and to my grandfather, Otto Charles Louis REINECKE, son of the Wilhelm referenced above (and detailed in paragraphs below). It was written to him by Christian's son, Karl REINECKE, Otto's 1st cousin in Germany. Otto REINECKE, nephew to Christian REINECKE, was born 22 March 1851 in Celle, Hannover, Germany, so this area of Hannover may prove important to Christian's own history. The letter just referenced informed that Christian REINECKE had at least two children: the Karl who wrote the letter and his twin sister Minna, but the wife to Christian was not given a name. Both Karl and Minna were alive at the time this letter was written. It is not known if Minna married, as the letter does not contain information beyond her name. The letter informed that Karl REINECKE married in 1897, name of wife unknown, but two children are known of the union and mentioned ... Gustav REINECKE and Emma REINECKE . Of Gustav it says he "went through WW I" which I assume meant he served in that war and survived. Karl further mentioned one grandchild ... but neglected to mention which of his children, Gustav or Emma, produced this progeny so there is a chance this grandson does not carry the surname REINECKE. This Grandson to Karl REINECKE mentioned in the letter had no forename but was alive in 1927; The letter is ambiguous and wording reflects that this grandson may actually have been born the year the letter was written.

Regarding my relationship to Christian REINECKE above detailed. Christian's brother is my direct ancestor ... his name was Wilhelm REINECKE, he was a Colonel, serving in the Franco Prussian War, I assume, based on the helmet in my family's possession. Col. Wilhelm REINECKE has known birthdate of 22 December 1824 and married Elise SHULTZ (born 26 December 1832 Hoya, Germany). The death dates and places for both are unknown to me. Wilhelm REINECKE and Elise SHULTZ produced among others Otto Charles Louis REINECKE. Otto was born 22 Mar 1851 Celle, Hannover, Germany, emmigrated to America 1868, naturalized 1872, died 1928 and is buried Glenwood Cemetery, Washington DC. My father, who knew his grandfather Otto REINECKE until Otto's death, wrote "Otto Charles Louis REINECKE had two sisters and one brother as follows 1) Anna, married Neil WIDTH, a Swede, no Children 2) Agnes, half sister, married Albert NOISEL, a German. No children. 3) William Jr. Married, but no children". How it is that Agnes is a half sister is not known to me. I know of no other marriages for either Elise or Wilhelm, but that certainly does not discount their existence, as Otto wrote a detailed autobiography near his death ... but it is largely about his own life situation, which included world wide travel, and did not reference his birth family or wife and children in any detail at all. Thank you


SZARO, Mary
eMail address: NJAFN@aol.com

I am searching for information on Heinrich (or Henry) EWALD / EVOLD, birth around 1833. He immigrated to the USA (New Jersey) by 1860 and became a Union Soldier in the Civil War. He was naturalized in the 1860s after the war and renounced his allegiance to the "Kingdom of Hannover". ANY info would be greatly appreciated.


THAMAN, Sharon
eMail address: SThaman@aol.com

I am searching for the ancestry of (Joannes ?) Wilhelm THAMANN. We have been told he was born about 1812 in Hanover, Germany. He immigrated to the United States and settled at St. Louis, Missouri. He married Bernardina ERPENBECK on 23 June 1843 at St. Louis, Missouri. On 20 June 1848 he signed the Declaration to Become a U.S. Citizen ("2nd papers"). We have also been unable to find any information about his death or location of his grave. Any information will be greatly appreciated.


VANLAW, Peter
eMail address: pvan@western-branch.com
(Jewish)

I'm looking for the specific death dates of two of my grandparents, Adolph and Gertrude WEINLAUB, hoping that the most direct route to the information is through their burial sites, and/or headstones. Both were Jewish. Adolph was born at Gratz Posen, Germany 5 February 1863, and died in Hannover, circa 1932. Gertrude nee BLUMENTHAL, was born 14 July 1874, place unknown, and died sometime in 1933 also in Hannover. Having lived most of their lives in Hannover, they built a successful business there called the Oppenheimer Company, which specialized in luxury bedding items, including eiderdown quilts and pillows. It was confiscated by the Nazis, we believe, in 1934. They had two sons, Willie and Kurt. Kurt was my father. I'm hoping that either through their gravesites, or on the off chance that their obituaries still exist, I'll be able to find their specific death dates. So, any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


VON BERGEN, Leslie MAYER
eMail address: lvonbe@texoma.net

I hope that you might be able to help me or offer some suggestions. I am searching for any information pertaining to ancestors, Henrietta SEAMAN, born 1849 in Hanover, married in Hanover in 1875 to A. H. von BERGEN (born 22 October 1847 at Berlin). They immigrated to the U.S. sometime after the birth of John Henry von BERGEN (born 15 June 1879). They had approximately four children and one died as an infant while on the ship coming to U.S. Thank you.


WILSON, Nancy
eMail address: brockden@bellatlantic.net
(Protestant)

HARJES, HARGES, HARGIS, HARJIS, Claus. (Parents John and Catherine) born 9 January 1835 at Hannover; died 16 December 16, 1910 in New Jersey. Immigrated to New York - around 1867 wife: Meta FELTHAUSEN (Parents Georga and Martha), born January 1836 in Germany; died March 1926 in New Jersey. She immigrated with daughter, delheid, age 9, on 29 July 1867 on the ship "Bremen" from Bremen to New York. Claus is not on the ship passenger list. They all, supposedly, came from Hannover. Would like to find more information about the family. Claus and Meta are my great great grandparents. They were buried in a German Protestant cemetery - I don't know their religion. Other surnames from New York that are probably relatives: STEENECK, MULSTEAD. Thank you.


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