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- ZVA NEWS Volume 6, Number 1
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April 2001 -
© copyright 2001 by ZVA and FEEFHS; all rights
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First Posted: 27 April 2001
ZICHYDORF VILLAGE ASSOCIATION NEWS
Volume 6, No. 1
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April 2001
CHURCH RECORDS FROM 1850-1945
We have identified two possible
researchers for these vital records. One is the Family Tree Research Bureau.
They are very reputable, but they have not yet given me a quote on group
research since my request at the beginning of January and several
reminders.
The second source is an independent researcher named Laszlo
Rudolf. I have communicated with several people who are well satisfied with his
work. Laszlo's normal fee is $150 US to research one person for one day,
including travel. He charges $100 per day or $10 per hour for additional time.
He has agreed to a group rate for us of $50 per person that you want researched,
provided we research a minimum of 20 people. For this amount, he would research
parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. and provide a written report of
what he found.
A wider search for siblings, spouses, and their families
would be at an additional cost because of how rapidly the number of people
expands. Copies and photos are also extra. Laszlo will give an approximate quote
when he has your request, then he will require a deposit before starting work. I
propose to go ahead with Laszlo to evaluate his results and possibly also use
the other group at a later date. If you would like Laszlo to research for you,
please complete his research form at the end of this newsletter and return it to
me by email or postal mail. I will forward to him the requests for the first 20
or so people and hold the rest until we evaluate this attempt.
The
1850-1900 church records are in the archives at Bela Crkva (Weisskirchen). The
church records after 1900 are at the church in Jermenovci (Urmenyhaza). Laszlo
has also discovered Confirmation records at Jermenovci. It seems that these
contain only the names and dates of those confirmed, so they are not of much use
for genealogy. However, you may wish to have the record for your
collection.
NEW AT THE LIBRARY AND ON THE WEB
Be sure to
keep checking for updates of Dave Dreyer's US immigration database at
Try
this site! http://www.plandiste.co.yu/
and this one! http://www.banaterheide.de/. The former
is in Serbian and the latter in German, but you can also try these translation
sites: http://translator.dictionary.com/fcgi/translate;
http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran;
www.freetranslation.com/; http://www.tranexp.com/; http://www.systransoft.com/; or http://www.babelfish.com/Translations.shtml.
I haven't had time to check any of these out in detail, so I can't comment on
which are best.
The Zichydorf binder at the SGS library now contains the
article Settlements in Hungary by Lorrainers & Alsations, translated
from the paper by Dr. L. Hecht.
We have received three Stader books
covering A-Kap. The book Kar-L is on order. These books are every bit as useful
as advertised. The main portion of each book is an alphabetical list of
immigrant records compiled from 250 different sources. Each entry lists the head
of household, number of others in the party (sometimes with names), point of
departure or destination (sometimes both), and the source of the
information.
Each book also includes three indexes: one is an index of
surnames, useful for locating spouses of those in the main listing; another is
an alphabetical list of the departure villages; the last is a list of the
destination villages. If you want to know the origins of your Banat ancestors,
you must check out this series.
COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUE
No new
developments. We are continuing to follow the slow progress of the
park.
RESEARCHER LIST
Please add the following people to
your copy of the researcher list:
- Kragh, Sheryl, PO Box 123, 1764 Green Road, Fruitvale, BC, V0G 1L0,
Canada; Phone: 250-367-9782; Email: kragh@telus.net; Searching: Deutsch,
Schwartz, Haack (Haag), Frass, Butta, Niedermayer, Koenig
- Herold, Stephen (Steve), 3021 Langs Bay, Costa Mesa, CA, 92626,
USA; Phone: 714-549-0637; Fax: 208-485-0418; Email: sherold@ix.netcom.com OR steveh@heroldtech.com; Searching:
Herold, Niedermayer, Horvath, Kerwel, Lampl (Bakowa), Weinschrott (Bakowa);
Resources: web site.http://www.banaters.com/, family bulletin
board at http://www.heroldtech.com/forum
- Halliday, Donna, #1810 - 757 Victoria Park Ave., Toronto, ON, M4C
5N8, Canada; Phone: 416-698-1680; Email:donna_halliday@hotmail.com; Searching:
Habermiller, Habermueller, Schmidt, Dormuth, Jacob; Resources: family tree in
progress
- Parker, Elaine, #1007 - 145 York St., Ottawa, ON, K1N 8Y3, Canada;
Phone: 613-562-9493, Fax: 613-992-3195, Email: elaineann@telus.net, Searching: Froh,
Klein from Zichydorf (also Hebig, Merz, Keil, Ilg, Weisensel, Theissing from
Bavaria), Resources: World Family Tree volumes 1, 2, 33-37 from Family Tree
Maker; Canadian Genealogy Index, cd #118; "A Journey of Faith" St Peter's
Abbacy, which covers the Muenster Diocese (includes Humboldt).
- Hohban, Ken John, 13 Ayton Lane, Ottawa, ON, K2K 2H4, Canada;
Phone: 613-592-3731; Email hobee@home.com;
Searching: Hochban
- Daniels, Barbara Anne, 11 Armstrong Lane, Hoquiam, WA, 98550, USA;
Phone:; Email: barbaraanne@techline.com OR ddaniels@techline.com; Searching:
Bavle, Biller / Piller, Hadespeck / Hadesbeck, Frass / Frasz, Reiter, Mueller
/ Muller, Wilwert, and Graveldinger.
- O'Brien, Mike, 12221 Elvan Road, Lovettsville, VA, 20180, USA;
Phone: 540-822-507, Email:mobrien@bigfoot.com, Searching:
Milleker, Tetz, Computer program: Family Tree Maker 8.0, Resources: family
tree on web site at http://www.milleker.org/
Please
update the following:
Annette Fulford's email to fulford231@home.com; Daryl
Young's email to d-m.young@sympatico.ca; Doreen Conelly's area code to 780;
John Busch's email to greenbusch2@aol.com; and Laura Grzyb's email to
zichydorf@hotmail.com
SASKATCHEWAN CENTENNIAL BOOK
PROJECT
Planning for this project is well underway and
implementation is beginning. Liz Hugel, Tim Novak, Laura Grzyb, and Glenn
Schwartz have been meeting over the winter, working out the details. Although
the book will focus on Saskatchewan families with roots in Zichydorf and
Georghausen, there will also be some history of Zichydorf and a chapter on our
cousins in other provinces and states. We will be contacting members in the
near future to ask for your participation. We hope you will attend the May 6
meeting in Regina for a briefing on this project and how you can
participate.
BOOK REVIEWS
The Church of Saint Agnes
(1887-1987) by Rev. Richard J. Schuler is a history of the parish in St.
Paul, Minnesota where many siblings and cousins of Saskatchewan Zichydorfers
settled. The parish was founded in 1887 by ethnic Germans from eastern Europe
and was well established when the Zichydorfers began to arrive after 1900. The
book offers a brief background on the conditions in Europe after 1850 that
prompted them to emigrate and a description of the conditions they found in
Minnesota before 1900.
The remainder is a fairly detailed history of
the founding and growth of the parish, including the decision-making regarding
building, expansion, and renovation of the church, school, convent, rectory,
etc. I am sure this book would be very interesting to parishioners interested
in their history, but it is of no use for genealogy. There are very few names
mentioned and I didn't recognize any of them as Zichydorfers. I do not plan to
acquire this book for the library unless requested by
members.
CD-ROM PROJECT
CD content will include pictures,
family trees in GEDCOM or text format, stories, indices that we have created
for the web, etc. Those who contribute a certain level of content will receive
a free CD in return. Those who do not contribute will be able to buy them for
a nominal fee. The only limits are our imaginations.
You may submit
your scanned pictures and files on disk or via email if you do not want to
risk regular mail. Please scan at 240-300 dpi; greyscale; 4" or 9" wide; .tif
preferred, .jpg acceptable. Include details to help differentiate people from
different generations or branches with the same name: include names and maiden
names, dates of birth, date and location of picture, other details of
interest.
ACHTZEHNER'S ZICHYDORF HISTORY BOOK
TRANSLATION
Order from Liz Hugel, 22 Dalhousie Way, Regina, SK,
Canada, S4V 0A2; Phone: (306) 761-0656; Email: bhugel@cableregina.com. $32.00 CDN
plus postage.
ST. MARY'S CHURCH RECORDS
John Hugel had a
second back operation, but without much success. There is a chance it may get
better as the operation continues to heal, but there are no guarantees. In the
meantime, John cannot even spend a full day at work, let alone hunch over a
microfilm reader for many hours. Good luck getting well John. If anyone else
would like to tackle this project, please contact Glenn. The microfilm can be
ordered at Mormon Family History Libraries.
ZICHYDORF
DATABASE
I now have almost 14,000 names in my database. Have you
sent me your family tree? I may be able to link you with others and save you a
lot of work.
MEMBERSHIP AND DUES
We welcome all members,
dues paying or not, for the knowledge they share with all of us. However, we
hope members will voluntarily contribute to the cost of maintaining the group
(web site, mailings, etc.). We suggest an annual donation of $10 to run the
association's affairs plus a one-time donation of $25 CDN to the library fund.
Canadian members will receive a tax receipt for the library donation from the
Saskatchewan Genealogical Society. Please forward your 2001 dues
soon.
Paid for 2001: J. Mayer, F. Andreas, C. Ortman, K.
Niedermayer, B. Petz, D. Connelly, A. Ritter, R. Borschowa, J. Devine, J.
Mayer, N. Stetner, K. Lambrecht, C. Noll, A. Roesslein, D. Halliday, B.
Anwender, M. O'Brien, E. Parker, B. Daniels, J. Hayhurst, L. Grzyb, S. Kragh,
V. Simaluk.
REGINA BRANCH MEETING
Regina Branch will meet
at 2pm on Sunday, May 6, at Access Communications (Cable Regina), 2250 Park St
(north door by the ball diamonds). Mark your calendar and bring some Zichydorf
friends.
Zichydorf Village Association News
edited by: Glenn
Schwartz
2274 Baldwin Bay, Regina, SK, S4V 1H2
Internet:
http://feefhs.org/zva/frg-zva.html
email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca
LASZLO RUDOLF RESEARCH FORM
Your name:
1. List the
people you want him to search for. List name, town of birth, and
approximate birth date. Date of emigration is helpful, but not
required.
2. How wide would you like the search to
be? Parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc, are very
straightforward. However, if you want me to document siblings and spouses,
this can be very time consuming (many families had eight, ten or more
children). If you want this, it can be from ten to twenty additional hours of
research, depending on the size of the family. People who are seeking to make
contact with living relatives often wish siblings just of the actual
emigrants, plus the siblings' children and grandchildren (if recent records
are available). Please let me know which of these you would like me to
do:
3. Sometimes I can find living relatives if the more
recent church books or civil records are accessible. I can also ask around
among people in the town, or make a copy of the local phone book (though many
people do not have telephones). Would you like me to do this also? If so, how
much time should I spend on it (up to how many hours
@$10/hour).
4. I can also take photographs of the town
(in general or particular subjects). I do the photos and photocopies at my
cost (about $20 per roll of film, including airmail to you). Would you like
photos, and if so, how many rolls , what subjects:
5.
About copies: I will try to get you copies of church book pages and civil
records if you want (wherever this is possible). Bear in mind, though, that
the authorities frequently charge for this. I need to know whether you want
official copies (may be $5 apiece or more) or photocopies (if they will allow
me to do this). There may be a fee for this as well, in addition to the
copying cost. So, do you want copies? Please specify type of record, for which
particular individuals, and what is the maximum you are willing to spend per
copy.
6. If you have any other questions, please write
them here: